I’m currently peeling away and need to get the beef joint in the oven soon, then comes the perfect timing of when to cook all the bits and bobs and remembering not to forget anything.

Getting things ready for the roast

It’s actually very peaceful at the moment and it’s nice to think that for at least one day a year all (most) of the shops shut, the pubs shut (apart from some open at lunch), and families get together with very little other distractions apart from what to watch on TV in the afternoon.

I’d better get back to work now, so have a great day. x

In the end I went to Focus and picket up a 7 ft Norwegian Spruce for £19.99 which I was very happy with. A quick google show that Homebase also have trees at this price too.

The tree came in netting and so I’ve put the tree up and am leaving it for a couple of days to settle and take its natural shape, and then it will be time to decorate!

Ready to be decorated

This type of encounter is often the only one that Joe Public will get with the Hare Krishna’s, and they will leave it at that, glad to have escaped. Many have formed their opinions from hearsay [not the band] and stories of ‘cults’ and so I’d like to put my views about them on my blog.

I was in the second year of my ‘Study of Religions’ degree at Chichester, and one of the modules involved visiting a place of worship and providing a first-hand perspective on it. I’ve minimalised the actual task, but to be fair I can’t really remember the actual assignment title [and can't be bothered rooting around the loft for my coursework]. Several day-trip options were offered [visiting a Synagogue/Roman Catholic Church/Mosque] but these seemed a bit tame and so me and two others on the course [Mike and Austin] decided to see what else was on offer, and so it was that in late 2001 we would be spending the weekend with the Hare Krishna’s.

This being a fair few years ago, a lot of the facts have been lost in the recesses of my mind, but I will do my best.

I knew a fair bit about the actual background of the International Society for Krishna Consciousness (ISKCON), popularly called Hare Krisna’s, having studied a fair few Indian Religions during my course, and I’ll outline a few key points here.

ISKCON was founded in New York in 1966 by Indian monk called A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada [died 1977], although it’s practices and beliefs are closely linked to the Gaudiya Vaishnavism form of Hinduism.

It was formed to spread the practice of Bhakti Yoga [the yoga of devotion] which is directly aimed at Krishna [the Supreme Lord] and his cohort Radha. [It must be noted that they have many other incarnations too.]

It is an evangelical movement, which seeks to indoctrinate new members and spread the word through actively going on to the streets to sing their mantra or to sell books.

Their mantra follows: “HARE KRISHNA HARE KRISHNA, KRISHNA KRISHNA HARE HARE, HARE RAMA HARE RAMA, RAMA RAMA HARE HARE” and by actually uttering these words it is said to induce God-consciousness.

So that’s the history lesson over with [thanks to wikipedia for refreshing me on a few points].

I also knew a bit about there problems too. During the 70s and 80s there was a lot of scandal [read fully about it here] revolving around molestation, kidnapping, and fraud, and it must be noted that this was only by a few individuals, although it did virtually bankrupt ISKCON, but has resulted in clearer transparency of the movement, which was ultimately needed if it was to continue.

So off we stayed at Bhaktivedanta Manor in Watford [acquired by George Harrison in 1973], which includes shrines, library, primary school, theatre, bakery, farm, community shop, and Food for Life [a food relief project]. When we arrived it was quite surreal as the actual building is in a mock-Tudor style dating from 1884, but this is quite typical of Hinduism and it’s assimilation of the culture it is in.

As I already said my memories of the visit are quite sketchy but I can tell you that we decided to participate as fully as we can, as that is really the only way of experiencing and understanding.

Our day started at 4:30am, for the first temple ceremony of the day [the temple in in the manor house and contains ornately decorated shrines], which I must admit was a lot earlier than I’d normally get up, but the other attendants were happy that their ‘visitors’ [us] had made the effort

Through the morning, it would get busier with a lot of the attendants not actually Hare Krishna’s but actually regular Hindu’s who are resident around the area. This is when you realise how closely linked they are, and that ISKCON considers itself simply another branch of Hinduism, and that this view if also reflected by the Hindus who come to pray, worship, and learn at the manor.

The difference between them though comes to light when the Guru-puja for Srila Prabhupada [worship for the spiritual master] takes place and a mass exodus of the visiting Hindu’s takes place, leaving only the Hare Krishna’s. This worship is for Prabhupada [who founded ISKCON] and the Hindu’s do not see him in the same light as the Hare Krisna’s who see him as divine[I must apologize for the simplicity in calling them either Hindu's or Hare Krishna's but I think it's the easiest way to differenciate.]

“Worship of the spiritual master is essential for spiritual advancement. As members of the Krishna consciousness movement we offer our obeisances and worship toShrila Prabhupada as the Founder-acharya of the International Society for Krishna Consciousness and as the instructing guru for all devotees in ISKCON. We are eternally indebted to His Divine Grace for single-handedly bringing Krishna to the Western world and thus giving everyone the opportunity to become a lover of God.”

I suppose in laymans term’s one could maybe [very loosely] compare this with maybe Roman Catholicism and the worship of the Pope, and Protestantism’s objection to this.

Throughout the day there are various prayers to be said, practices to be observed, and rituals to be undertaken, and I must admit that this way of life was very peaceful with a set order of the day [ending at 10pm]. I was told a lot about what ISKCON actually does and what’s it’s for by the devotees who either live their or visit daily, and they too seemed very happy with their lives and how they were indebted to the faith.

The visit really moved me and I can honestly say that if I’d stayed there longer maybe I would’ve stayed for a lot longer. It was peaceful, what they had to say seemed important and I really valued their ideals. Of course I’m a level-headed person and I returned back to Chichester although I still had my beads, with which I could recite the mantra, and I also had a new hobby, Vegetarianism, which I must admit only lasted 3 months.

I can see how someone who was actively looking for faith, and in search for an answer could get involved in the Hare Krisha movement, but I can see nothing wrong with this. Everyone is looking for something, and maybe ISKCON is right for somep people. All religions have to be funded from somewhere and I think book-selling is a good way of doing this and spreading the word. Of course if you are not interested then just say ‘no thanks’ and wish them a good day. They will not be offended. Another programme they run is the ‘Food for Life’, the world’s largest vegan/vegetarian food relief organisation, which following on from Prabhupada’s announcement that “No one within ten miles of a temple should go hungry” has evolved into volunteers giving away 450,000 meals daily. [read more here]